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Ant
2007-09-19 08:22:37 UTC
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Hello!

I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2
(finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a couple
free third party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike [HL2]).

From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed
items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team
Fortress 2. Does that mean I to buy the stuff I already own? Or can I
just buy the three items I don't have (not online) from its retail box?

Thank you in advance. :)
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Patrick Vervoorn
2007-09-19 08:30:46 UTC
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Post by Ant
Hello!
I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2
(finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a couple
free third party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike [HL2]).
I think you mean Episode 1. Episode 2 is what's upcoming, and probably the
major part of The Orange Box.
Post by Ant
From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed
items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team
Fortress 2. Does that mean I to buy the stuff I already own? Or can I
just buy the three items I don't have (not online) from its retail box?
Yes, HL2 and HL2:Ep1 will be the 'doubles' in The Orange Box.

As far as I know, you cannot yet buy _only_ HL2:Ep2 and/or TF2 and/or
Portal.

BTW, finally got TF2 working, and it looks very impressive. I've not had
time to go online, but started the 'Hydro' map in 'Spectator' mode,
cycling through the Developer's Commentary, and looking at all the
classes. Wow, is all I can say. But as mentioned, I haven't played it yet,
so I hope my 'wow' will remain then too ;)
Post by Ant
Thank you in advance. :)
You're welcome.

Regards, Patrick.
Ant
2007-09-19 08:41:03 UTC
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Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Post by Ant
I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2
(finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a couple
free third party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike [HL2]).
I think you mean Episode 1. Episode 2 is what's upcoming, and probably the
major part of The Orange Box.
DOH! I meant episode 1. Yeah. Heh. It's almost 2 AM here. :)
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Post by Ant
From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed
items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team
Fortress 2. Does that mean I to buy the stuff I already own? Or can I
just buy the three items I don't have (not online) from its retail box?
Yes, HL2 and HL2:Ep1 will be the 'doubles' in The Orange Box.
As far as I know, you cannot yet buy _only_ HL2:Ep2 and/or TF2 and/or
Portal.
Bah. That sucks! I don't want to repay games that I have already. DUMB!
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
BTW, finally got TF2 working, and it looks very impressive. I've not had
time to go online, but started the 'Hydro' map in 'Spectator' mode,
cycling through the Developer's Commentary, and looking at all the
classes. Wow, is all I can say. But as mentioned, I haven't played it yet,
so I hope my 'wow' will remain then too ;)
TF2 does looks cool, but I don't want to shell out my money just for it
and have to repay episode 1, original game, and Counter-Strike!
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himself? Would it be to the glory of a man to fry ants?" --Charlotte
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Patrick Vervoorn
2007-09-19 09:25:53 UTC
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Post by Ant
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I think you mean Episode 1. Episode 2 is what's upcoming, and probably the
major part of The Orange Box.
DOH! I meant episode 1. Yeah. Heh. It's almost 2 AM here. :)
:)
Post by Ant
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Yes, HL2 and HL2:Ep1 will be the 'doubles' in The Orange Box.
As far as I know, you cannot yet buy _only_ HL2:Ep2 and/or TF2 and/or
Portal.
Bah. That sucks! I don't want to repay games that I have already. DUMB!
You can also look at it this way: you get them as freebies together with
the NEW stuff. And, Valve has said you can give away the stuff you have
double. So perhaps there's someone you know you can make happy with HL2
and/or HL2:Ep1?
Post by Ant
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
BTW, finally got TF2 working, and it looks very impressive. I've not had
time to go online, but started the 'Hydro' map in 'Spectator' mode,
cycling through the Developer's Commentary, and looking at all the
classes. Wow, is all I can say. But as mentioned, I haven't played it yet,
so I hope my 'wow' will remain then too ;)
TF2 does looks cool, but I don't want to shell out my money just for it
and have to repay episode 1, original game, and Counter-Strike!
I agree with the other poster, he says the contents The Orange Box,
excluding the 'double' stuff is easily worth the amount of money they ask.

I do, however, disagree on the perceived value of Ep2: Valve has been very
busy with this, and looking at all the playing videos released a _LOT_ of
new content is in this. Looking forward to smacking some Striders with the
new Strider-buster for instance, and I'm also looking forward to the
underground stuff. ;)

I need to get my new rig before Episode 2 is available, because if TF2 is
any indication, I need to turn down a lot of detail on my current rig to
get the framerates up (P4-2.4GHz-1GB/AGP7600GT-256MB).

Regards,

Patrick.
Mike Roman
2007-09-19 10:24:23 UTC
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Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I do, however, disagree on the perceived value of Ep2: Valve has been very
busy with this, and looking at all the playing videos released a _LOT_ of
new content is in this. Looking forward to smacking some Striders with the
new Strider-buster for instance, and I'm also looking forward to the
underground stuff. ;)
Well, I was trying not to get too excited - from one perspective it's "just"
more levels for a game we already paid for. But yeah, Valve have done a hell
of a lot more than just knocking up new levels.

Three games for $50 is peanuts though.
Patrick Vervoorn
2007-09-19 11:20:46 UTC
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Post by Mike Roman
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Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I do, however, disagree on the perceived value of Ep2: Valve has been very
busy with this, and looking at all the playing videos released a _LOT_ of
new content is in this. Looking forward to smacking some Striders with the
new Strider-buster for instance, and I'm also looking forward to the
underground stuff. ;)
Well, I was trying not to get too excited - from one perspective it's "just"
more levels for a game we already paid for. But yeah, Valve have done a hell
of a lot more than just knocking up new levels.
It in any case looks like a lot more than just knocking up new levels, or,
at least, not a plain re-hash of the old stuff.
Post by Mike Roman
Three games for $50 is peanuts though.
Exactly, and a price I gladly paid. Now to find some time to become a
TF2-expert! :)

Regards, Patrick.
Mike Roman
2007-09-19 11:33:56 UTC
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Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Exactly, and a price I gladly paid. Now to find some time to become a
TF2-expert! :)
Looks like I'll have to learn to be a sniper all over again - no
power-sniping unless zoomed (and no crosshair either) and no grenades.
Couldn't seem to make him run either.

The class has certainly changed quite a bit.
Mike Roman
2007-09-19 08:43:19 UTC
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Post by Ant
Hello!
I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2 (finished)
from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a couple free third
party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike [HL2]).
From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed
items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team Fortress
2. Does that mean I to buy the stuff I already own? Or can I just buy the
three items I don't have (not online) from its retail box?
Thank you in advance. :)
Well, you certainly can't buy them individually at the moment, but who knows
what'll happen in the coming months?

I was thinking along the same lines as you but then I thought - $50 (inc.
tax) is pretty damned cheap for TF2 (which is EXCELLENT - played it
yesterday - easily worth £20UKP,) Portal (which certainly LOOKS excellent -
and if it's anything like Narbacular Drop, will be! - and worth another
£15UKP to £20UKP assuming it delivers) and Episode 2 (I'd happily pay a
tenner for it) - three of the best games I'll play in the next five years
for that price...? I'd be tempted to ignore the fact that they're bundling
in the stuff you already own - or maybe consider that they're including that
stuff for free for people who are new to the whole HL2 experience. Just look
at the ridiculous prices they charge for a SINGLE game in the stores...

My recommendation - cough up and get playing TF2 today!

And no, I don't work for Valve! It's a damn shame - the poor guys are just
trying to do the best and the flak they have to take for it!
KCB
2007-09-19 21:49:46 UTC
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Post by Ant
Hello!
I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2
(finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a
couple free third party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike
[HL2]).
From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed
items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team
Fortress 2. Does that mean I to buy the stuff I already own? Or can I
just buy the three items I don't have (not online) from its retail box?
Thank you in advance. :)
--
"Trivial hurts, tiny human accidents," said Firenze, as his hooves
thudded over the mossy floor. "These are of no more significance than
the scurryings of ants to the wide universe, and are unaffected by
planetary movements." --Harry Potter book
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Ant
2007-09-20 05:22:49 UTC
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Post by Ant
I already own the original Half-Life 2 (finished) and Episode 2
(finished) from long ago. I also have Steam (duh, required) and a
couple free third party mods (e.g., Insurgency and Counter-Strike
[HL2]).
From what I read, only the orange box is available with all the listed
items I bought and the upcoming ones (Portal, Episode 2, and Team
Fortress 2. Does that mean I to buy the stuff I already own? Or can I
just buy the three items I don't have (not online) from its retail box?
See this page at steampowered.com
http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=750
Very interesting. Unfortunately, everyone (PC gamers that is) I know has
HL2 already. LOL! :(
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It is said a lion cub was killed by a single colony of ants." --Saskya
Pandita
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